Strange and Undecided
Interested in the strange, bizarre, and unknown? You’ve come to the right place! We are Jarret, Pat, and Brando and we are going to dive into everything and anything strange in Canada from shocking murder cases all the way to elusive UFO encounters! New episodes are released on Mondays. Thank you, and... goodnight. If you have any topics or stories for the show, email us at strangeandundecided@gmail.com. Instagram: strangeandundecided Youtube: Strange and Undecided
Episodes

7 days ago
7 days ago
Episode 44 - On the morning of May 3rd, 1975, a farmer stumbled across something that they would never forget. A body was floating face-down in a river. Authorities came to the scene and recovered the body only to find that it belonged to a woman who was bound and wrapped in cloth and towels. For nearly five decades, the identity of this woman and the circumstances of her death remained unknown. She came to be known as the Nation River Lady and for years it seemed her case would never be solved. However, through the use of forensic genealogy the case was cracked, providing long-awaited answers.
239UFON
Nation River Lady Jane Doe 1975 | DNA Doe Project
OPP re-open 40-year-old murder case | Quinte News
The 1975 murder of Canada's "Nation River Lady" has finally been solved | National
'Nation River Lady' case: Woman found dead in a Canadian river nearly 50 years ago has been identified
DNA Doe Project identifies Nation River Lady in 1975 cold case
'Nation River Lady' Canadian murder cold case victim identified
Accused suspect in 1975 eastern Ontario 'Nation River Lady' murder returning to Canada
Jewell “Lalla” Parchman Langford (1927-1975) - Find a Grave Memorial
Body found floating in Canadian river in 1975 identified as prominent U.S. businesswoman Jewell "Lalla" Langford - CBS News
U.S. authorities arrest man charged with murder in Nation River Lady case | CBC News
Forensic genealogy helps crack 1975 cold case of ‘Nation River Lady’ in eastern Ontario | Globalnews.ca
U.S. man accused in 1975 homicide extradited to Canada | Ottawa Citizen
How one of Canada’s ‘oldest unsolved and most unique’ cases was cracked | Canada | The Guardian
Accused in Nation River Lady Murder Returns to Face Ontario Court - Les éditions André Paquette
Decades-old murder case of woman found in Ont. river delayed over concerns accused not fit for trial
Accused in 'Nation River Lady' murder returns to Canada
How cold case DNA technique came to Ottawa from California — and where it’s headed next | Radio-Canada.ca
'Nation River Lady' identified decades after death, Florida man charged in connection - Canada Info
Police finally crack 1975 cold case | Radio-Canada.ca
Nation River Lady: Woman is identified nearly 5 decades after she was found floating in river, Canadian police say | CNN
Family of woman ID'd 45 years after disappearing never gave up, niece says | CBC News
Man arrested in 'Nation River Lady' cold case of woman found in Ontario
1975 ‘Nation River Lady’ cold case cracked with forensic genealogy, U.S. women identified | Watch News Videos Online
Police solve eastern Ontario cold case from 1975. A Florida man is charged with murder | NCPR News
Police finally crack 1975 cold case | CBC News
Media Update - 1975 'Nation River Lady' case

Sunday Nov 23, 2025
Sunday Nov 23, 2025
Episode 43 - On November 10th 1975, the largest ship on the Great Lakes sailed into one of the worst storms Lake Superior had ever seen. The ship attempted to make it to shore in Whitefish Bay but ended up vanishing without a trace, never reaching its destination. The SS Edmund Fitzgerald, considered the pride of American inland shipping, was lost along with twenty-nine crew members. At the time nobody knew what happened to the ship as it had simply disappeared. It was eventually found a few days later at the bottom of Lake Superior split in two parts. What happened to the boat and why did it sink the night of November 10th? To understand this event and the tragic loss of life we must first look at the life of the ship, its final voyage, and the fury of the storm that claimed her.
SHOW NOTES
SS Edmund Fitzgerald - Wikipedia
The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald - Wikipedia
The Legend of the Edmund Fitzgerald | Northern Michigan History
The Storm and Voyage — S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald Online
S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald | Detroit Historical Society
The Story of the Edmund Fitzgerald -- BackgroundThe Story of the Edmund Fitzgerald -- Background
The Story of the Edmund Fitzgerald -- Aftermath
The Gales of November: remembering the Edmund Fitzgerald
Sinking of the Fitzgerald
Edmund Fitzgerald (1958) - WI Shipwrecks
Edmund Fitzgerald | Sinking, Ship, Bodies, Song, & Facts | Britannica
Did they ever find the bodies from the Edmund Fitzgerald? | Britannica
The Fateful Journey - Great Lakes Shipwreck Historical Society
50 years on, Edmund Fitzgerald remembered through song and mystery | CBC News
Remembering the Edmund Fitzgerald – National Museum of the Great Lakes
The Storm that Sunk the Edmund Fitzgerald | Teaching Great Lakes Science
How Much of “The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald” is True? - Great Lakes Museum
The Edmund Fitzgerald sank in the Great Lakes 50 years ago. This is its legacy : NPR
Edmund Fitzgerald® | Great Lakes Brewing Company
2015 $20 Lost Ships in Canadian Waters: S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald - Pure

Sunday Oct 05, 2025
Sunday Oct 05, 2025
For our Halloween Special we decided to investigate alleged haunted locations! Be sure to tune in on YouTube (see link below) October 17th, October 24th, and October 31st for 3 locations we visited. You're not going to want to miss this!
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@StrangeandUndecided

Monday Jul 07, 2025
Monday Jul 07, 2025
Episode 42 - On May 10th, 1973, in the sleepy town of Kenora, Ontario. A man entered the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC) on Main Street. He was armed with a rifle, a handgun, and a bomb. He demanded money from the bank and wouldn’t leave until he got what he wanted. Police officers arrived at the scene as well as a thousand civilians. But what happened next, became forever imprinted in the town and its citizens. 50 years later, we are left with more questions than answers. One stands out above the rest. Why is this an unsolved case?
SHOW NOTES
1973 Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce bank robbery - Wikipedia
Canada's Missing | Case details
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: Kenora bank robber disintegrates in explosion | Winnipeg Sun
Something to Talk About: The Story of Kenora's 1973 Bank Robbery - The Muse - Lake of the Woods Museum | Douglas Family Art Centre
Who was the Kenora bomber?: W5 digs up clues that could reveal his identity
Paul Higgins | Unidentified Wiki | Fandom
50 years ago today: CIBC bank robbery in Kenora | Kenora Online
From the Archives: 1,000 see bank robber blown to bits
Man Blown Up While Attempting to Rob Bank Unidentified 52 Years Later | by Cat Leigh | True Crime by Cat Leigh | Medium
Kenora Policemen-Sgt. Robert Letain (left) and Constable Donald Milliard-examine pants Milliard was wearing when a bank robber was blown up by sticks (...) – All Items – Digital Archive : Toronto Public Library
Eyewitness author returns to Kenora for 50th anniversary of robbery | Kenora Miner
50 years ago today: CIBC bank robbery in Kenora | CFOB 93.1 The Border
The Great Canadian Bank Bombery | Killzoneblog.com
50th Anniversary of Kenora's Bank Robbery Presentation by Author Joe Ralko - The Muse - Lake of the Woods Museum | Douglas Family Art Centre
Forty years after the identity of the Kenora bomber remains a mystery | Kenora Miner
Blast from the past – Winnipeg Free Press
40-Year-Old Kenora Bomber Remains A Mystery | CKDR
191-2008 Disband KPS Contract with OPP.pdf
Dead Man’s Switch - Lake of the Woods Brewing Company
https://themusekenora.ca/shop/The-Devils-Gap-Ralko-p548448786
VIDEO
CANADA: BOMB-CARRYING BANK ROBBER BLOWS HIMSELF UP AFTER BEING SHOT. - British Pathé
W5'S ORIGINAL KENORA BOMBER STORY FROM 1983 | W5 VAULT - YouTube
THE MYSTERY BOMBER, PART 1: KENORA BANK ROBBERY OF 1973 | W5 INVESTIGATION - YouTube
THE MYSTERY BOMBER, PART 2: WHO WAS BEHIND THE BANK HEIST? | W5 INVESTIGATION - YouTube

Monday Jun 16, 2025
Monday Jun 16, 2025
Episode 41 - Toronto, Ontario, a city known for its multiculturalism, gastronomy, the CN Tower, the Toronto Blue Jays, the Toronto Maple Leafs and much more. But what many people don’t realize is that Toronto has a much more mysterious and hidden side to it. One that lies underground. Beneath the bustling streets of Toronto's Cabbagetown neighborhood lies a legend that has been a mystery for over 40 years. A tunnel system from Toronto’s past that had been covered up is said to harbour a terrifying secret. In this episode we are going to explore these forgotten tunnels, delve into the legend of what lives down there, and try to figure out what it could possibly be.
SHOW NOTES
Brief History of Cabbagetown – Cabbagetown Preservation Association
Cabbagetown, Toronto - Wikipedia
Neighbourhood: Cabbagetown | Destination Toronto
Cabbagetown Tunnel Monster tale continues to intrigue forty years later – The Superstitious Times
Toronto Tunnel Monster | Cryptid Wiki | Fandom
Folktale: The Tunnel Monster of Cabbagetown, Ontario – Bekah Ferguson
The Tunnel Monster of Cabbagetown - by Adam Bunch
Encyclopaedia Of The Impossible: The Cabbagetown Tunnel Monster Of Toronto
Cabbagetown Monster in Toronto. The Cabbagetown Tunnel Monster or… | by Lonbraj Witcher | Medium
Toronto Tunnel Monster | ObscUrban Legend Wikia | Fandom
Toronto's Secret Tunnels | The Haunted Walk
Throwback Thursday: The Tunnel Monster of Cabbagetown – Cabbagetown Residents Association – CRA
Strange Company: The Cabbagetown Monster
PressReader.com - Digital Newspaper & Magazine Subscriptions
The Creepy Cabbagetown Monster Lurking in Toronto's Underground
Toronto Tunnel Monster - Taddle Creek
Toronto Tunnel Monster: Cryptid - Mythical Encyclopedia
Cryptids of Canada and Other Toronto Urban Legends We Bet You Didn't Know About - Mary-am Suites

Monday May 26, 2025
Monday May 26, 2025
Episode 40 - On November 11th, 1975, a Canadian air force base in Falconbridge, Ontario picked up an unidentified object on their radar. Not only was this object detected by radar, but people could see it from the ground as well. Two fighter jets were scrambled to intercept the object but couldn't find it. This case is important as the witnesses involved here were highly credible military personnel and police officers. But what exactly did they see? In this episode we are going to discuss what happened on the night of November 11th, what the object in the sky was believed to be, and the fact that there were numerous other sightings in the days leading up to this event.
SHOW NOTES
CFS Falconbridge - Wikipedia
Water Tower Falconbridge Greater Sudbury Area UFO, NORAD, Nickel Centre
Police UFO .com - Canadian Police UFO Witnesses
Falconbridge, ON - 1975 - UFO Sitings and Reports - Internet
1975 UFO Chronology
1975: November UFO & Alien Sightings - Think AboutIts
Falconbridge Radar Station History - ghosttownpix.com
Falconbridge, ON - 1975 - UFO Report - Palmiro Campagna
Memory Lane: Flying saucers over the Nickel City! - Sudbury News
U.F.O. FILES: THE UNTOLD STORY
UFO Report
CFS Falconbridge | MikeOnline
SECRET DOCUMENT: UFO Report
SECRET DOCUMENT: 751111falconbridge.pdf
Wurtsmith and Others
UFOs Intrude Into SAC Weapons base
UFOs - Documenting The Evidence

Monday May 12, 2025
Monday May 12, 2025
Episode 39 - The city of Abbotsford, British Columbia was calm on October 13th, 1995. Two teenagers were coming back from a party and decided to go to their friend’s house as they weren’t ready to call it a night. When they were walking, the teenagers were suddenly attacked by someone who jumped out of the bushes with a baseball bat. One of the girls managed to make it on foot to a nearby hospital while the other disappeared. In this episode we are going to look at what happened the night of the attack, what happened to the other teenager, and why the perpetrator taunted police and media about what they did in the following months.
SHOW NOTES
Terry Driver - Wikipedia
Tanya Smith | Unsolved Mysteries Wiki | Fandom
Abbotsford Killer Arrested
Mystery Repeats Itself: Terry Driver - The Abbotsford Killer
Terry Driver | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers
2000 BCSC 69 (CanLII) | Regina v Terry M. G. Driver | CanLII
PressReader.com - Digital Newspaper & Magazine Subscriptions
Abbotsford killer designated a dangerous offender by B.C. court - The Globe and Mail
Family of killer to receive reward - The Globe and Mail
Abbotsford killer's return prompts protest | CBC News
Convicted Abbotsford killer suspected in 3 more murders
Terry Driver loses appeal of murder conviction | CBC News
Death of an inmate from Mountain Institution - Canada.ca
Terry Driver, the B.C. man who killed a teen, then terrified the community is dead - Powell River Peak
Terry Driver, the B.C. man who killed a teen, then terrified the community is dead
Woman who survived 'Abbotsford Killer' devoted to helping others | CBC News
Number and rate of homicide victims, by Census Metropolitan Areas
Number of homicides by province in Canada| Statista

Sunday Apr 27, 2025
Sunday Apr 27, 2025
Episode 38 - On May 16th, 2022, the partial remains of a woman were discovered in a garbage bin behind an apartment building in Winnipeg. The resulting investigation pointed towards the work of a serial killer and as time went on more people would be linked to this case. As of now in 2025, 4 indigenous women have been officially identified as victims however, finding these women’s bodies was a different story and one that was compounded heavily by politics. The investigation into finding some of the missing women was stalled and resisted. But why? In this episode we are going to discuss the timeline of the murders, who committed these crimes, and why recovering the bodies was delayed and even disregarded by both police and the provincial government.
SHOW NOTES
TRANSCRIPT
FRIDAY, May 26, A
VIDEO FOOTAGE
Serial killer tells Winnipeg police his killings were racially motivated
Court hears video evidence of Jeremy Skibicki's confession to Winnipeg police | CBC.ca
Winnipeg serial killer admits racial motivations in confession video
Jeremy Skibicki confesses to killing four women
Video showing admitted serial killer with two of four victims played at trial | Watch News Videos Online
A timeline of what we know about 4 slain Winnipeg women and serial killer Jeremy Skibicki | CBC News
Police begin search of Winnipeg landfill for remains of homicide victim found dead in May | CBC News
Victims were overpowered, choked and drowned in a bathtub
Alleged Winnipeg serial killer threatened to kill 2 previous partners, court records reveal | CBC News
Accused killer's allegedly hate-filled online presence should be factored into investigation, trial: experts | CBC News
(1) Man arrested in Rebecca Contois murder charged with 3 more homicides: Winnipeg police - Winnipeg | Globalnews.ca
Alleged serial killer in custody and charged in killings of 4 Indigenous women in Canada, police say | CNN
Winnipeg serial killer seen with victims in video footage played at trial | CBC News
Canadian man charged with murdering four Indigenous women | Canada | The Guardian
Estranged wife has protection order against man charged in killing of 24-year-old | CBC News
3 First Nations women, 1 unidentified woman were victims of alleged serial killer: Winnipeg police | CBC News
Canadian killer given life sentences for four murders
‘Evil monster’: Man sentenced to life for slayings of 4 Indigenous women in Winnipeg - Winnipeg | Globalnews.ca
Landfill search begins in Manitoba for remains of serial killer's victims
Second body identified in Canada landfill amid search for serial killer’s victims | Canada | The Guardian
2nd set of remains found at Manitoba landfill confirmed to be Marcedes Myran | CBC News
Remains of Canadian serial killer's victims found in landfill
Remains of another Indigenous woman murdered by serial killer found at landfill in Canada, officials confirm - CBS News
Mashkode Bizhiki'ikwe now has a name: Ashlee Shingoose was Winnipeg serial killer's 1st victim | CBC News
Complex investigation ruled out potentially undiscovered victims of Winnipeg serial killer, police say | CBC News
Jeremy Skibicki admits to killing 4 Indigenous women
Update of Investigation re Identification of Mashkode Bizhi’ikwe (Buffalo Woman): C22-103187 | City of Winnipeg

Monday Mar 31, 2025
Monday Mar 31, 2025
Episode 37 - On the afternoon of July 31, 1987, the city of Edmonton, Alberta, was struck by a sudden natural disaster. An exceptionally powerful tornado tore through the eastern edge of the city leaving behind a path of destruction. This was one of the deadliest tornadoes in Canadian history injuring many and leaving 27 people dead in its wake. The event came to be known to the citizens of Edmonton as Black Friday. How did this all happen and why was nobody prepared? In this episode we are going to look into what was happening weather-wise before the tornado hit, the destruction it caused, and what has been done to understand and prevent something like this happening again.
PHOTOS AND NEWS COVERAGE DISCUSSED IN EPISODE
Photos: Gallery: Black Friday remembered through images | Edmonton Journal
News Coverage: The 1987 Edmonton tornado | CBC.ca
SHOW NOTES
Edmonton Tornado (1987) | The Canadian Encyclopedia
TORNADO - A Report - Canadian Red Cross
'Terrifying': Edmonton's mayor drove cab during July 1987 Black Friday tornado | Edmonton Journal
Recalling Canada's second-deadliest tornado, killing 27 in Edmonton - The Weather Network
Flashback to the destructive 1987 Edmonton tornado - Indianapolis News | Indiana Weather | Indiana Traffic | WISH-TV |
A massive tornado tore through Edmonton 37 years ago today | News
A Commemorative Reflection On The Edmonton Tornado and Hailstorm, 1987
The Black Friday Tornado: Remembering July 31, 1987 | Reader's Digest
Edmonton, Alberta F4 Tornado – July 31, 1987 – Tornado Talk
Edmonton tornado - Wikipedia
1987 Edmonton tornado - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thirty years after deadly Edmonton tornado, storms remain difficult to track | CBC News
The Edmonton Tornado of 1987 –
Residents of Alberta remember 1987 tornado - Canadian Red Cross

Monday Mar 17, 2025
Monday Mar 17, 2025
Episode 36 - On December 15th, 2017, the bodies of 75-year-old Barry Sherman and his 70-year-old wife Honey Sherman were discovered in a room that contained their swimming pool. After an initial investigation, the police implied that this might be a case of murder-suicide but did not state it directly. It would prove to be a grave mistake. A separate private investigation conducted their own investigation and determined that Barry and Honey were actually the victims of murder. Why would one of Canada’s most well-known philanthropic couples be murdered and why did the police get it wrong? In tonight's episode we are going to discuss who the Sherman’s were and the investigation into their deaths. In Part 2, we will discuss who might have wanted them dead. Welcome to the Strange and Undecided Podcast.
SHOW NOTES
Victim Honey SHERMAN - Toronto Police Service
Victim Bernard (Barry) SHERMAN - Toronto Police Service
There Are Imponderables: The Strange Case of Barry Sherman | Free Inquiry
Barry and Honey Sherman murders' newest twist: family and police join forces - Macleans.ca
Behind the shadows
Photos reveal Honey Sherman likely attacked inside her house
Barry and Honey Sherman murders: Inside the lives of the billionaire couple
Bernard (Barry) Sherman
Canadian Pharmaceuticals Billionaire And Wife Found Dead In Toronto Mansion
5 years after a billionaire and his wife were found murdered, their family is offering $35 million to catch their killer - CBS News
Police skipped ‘Homicide 101’ in billionaire Sherman murders
Barry and Honey Sherman: The first 48 hours are crucial in a homicide. The police acted like they were in no rush
Domestic troubles, the investigation – and just how cold the Barry and Honey Sherman murder case is
Barry and Honey Sherman were murdered, police say
Barry and Honey Sherman’s bodies were found posed like the sculptures in their basement
Barry and Honey Sherman sued builders of North York home
Supreme Court unseals Barry and Honey Sherman estate files, paves way for access in Toronto Star legal win
Frank D'Angelo - Wikipedia
Apotex founder Barry Sherman and wife found dead in Toronto home | Financial Post
Site Of Honey And Barry Sherman's Now-Demolished Home For Sale
An ‘urban explorer’ entered Barry and Honey Sherman’s home before demolition and saw papers that ‘looked like evidence’
Family of murdered Canadian billionaire Barry Sherman split over money | National Post
WARMINGTON: Investigators should 'follow the money' to solve Sherman murders | Toronto Sun
Billionaire Murders | Crave








